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 Work-for-the-dole scheme alternative
Flin
 Posted: Sep 9 2017, 06:50 AM
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Work-for-the-dole scheme alternative launched by Aboriginal organisations
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APONT members voiced concerns about the CDP work-for-the-dole scheme during Senate Estimates.

Aboriginal organisations from across the Northern Territory have launched their own remote employment scheme, which they say should replace the Federal Government's "racially discriminatory" work-for-the-dole program.

The current Community Development Programme (CDP) covers about 35,000 people across Australia and most participants are Indigenous.

Under the scheme, people must spend 25 hours over five days a week on "work-like" activities to get their unemployment benefits and are fined for being late or failing to show up.

Speaking outside Parliament House in Canberra, the alliance said the scheme was impractical in remote communities, where the job market was poor.

It said the "community-driven" plan would end the harsh penalty regime under CDP.

"We call on the current government to scrap it, get rid of it and work with the Aboriginal leadership," Aboriginal Peak Organisations NT (APONT) chief executive John Paterson said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-08/aboriginal-organisations-launch-alternative-work-for-dole-scheme/8887410

"Aboriginal organisations from across the Northern Territory have launched their own remote employment scheme, which they say should replace the Federal Government's "racially discriminatory" work-for-the-dole program."

Isn't a program just for Aboriginal organisations racially discriminating? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

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Bear
 Posted: Sep 9 2017, 08:24 AM
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Could that be reverse racism Flin? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

The GetUp you progressives would argue that it is ONLY discrimination/racism when white peoples' do it.


"We call on the current government to scrap it, get rid of it and work with the Aboriginal leadership,"


If they want to lead the country maybe they should form a political party...

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 Posted: Sep 9 2017, 01:08 PM
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The current Community Development Programme (CDP) covers about 35,000 people across Australia and most participants are Indigenous.

Under the scheme, people must spend 25 hours over five days a week on "work-like" activities to get their unemployment benefits and are fined for being late or failing to show up.


Rather than scrap the CDP Scheme, maybe the government should extend its 'benefits' to all Australians on Newstart.

We could let the dole bludgers loose on the parks and roads, picking up rubbish. We could have a 'Clean Up Australia" day 365 days a year.

Can you see the problem with that proposal ?

The CDP (formerly CDEP) has been around a long time, and has some benefits in some communities where paid employment is as scarce as hens teeth.

Indigenous communities don't have a problem with the 'employment' aspect of the scheme - there is much to be gained by the communities - it's the "penalties" introduced by this government that are the problem.

If we take the time to read the whole bloody article before commenting, there is much support for the APONT proposal, including from the Minister Nigel Scullion.


"We call on the current government to scrap it, get rid of it and work with the Aboriginal leadership," Aboriginal Peak Organisations NT (APONT) chief executive John Paterson said.

"Not next week, not next month, not next year but right now because Aboriginal people, Aboriginal communities, Aboriginal families are hurting, and I mean seriously hurting."

The APONT alliance includes the Northern and Central Land Councils, Central Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service, North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency and Aboriginal Medical Services Alliance NT.

The group's proposed Remote Development Employment Scheme includes a jobs fund, which would allow local Indigenous organisations to employ people in part-time work on community projects.

According to APONT, the new scheme would create 10,500 part-time jobs — 30 per cent of CDP's current caseload — as a "starting point".

The jobs would go to people who are currently receiving social security payments below the minimum wage.

A spokesperson for the Indigenous Affairs Minister said Nigel Scullion "has already stated his intention to move to a wages-based scheme" and consultations about new model have begun.

Senate committee also considering effectiveness of programme

APONT's launch coincided with a Senate committee hearing looking at the appropriateness and effectiveness of the CDP in remote communities.

Yuendumu's Centrelink acting Site Manager and Community and Public Sector Union representative, Brook Holloway, told the inquiry police had reported increasing crime rates because of the penalty regime.

"I remember one police officer telling me, thank God you're here, can you turn the money back on?" Mr Holloway said.

"He was sick of the DV call-outs and the break and enters. If you take away someone's basic right, their food their money, someone's going to find a way to get it.

"It doesn't matter if you live in St Kilda or you live in Warlpiri country, you take someone's money away from them, they'll find a way to survive."


.....and yes Flin, you are quite correct - it is "racially discriminating" unless and until we are prepared to extend the 'benefits' and 'penalties' to all Australians including over 50's 'white people' on Newstart. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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QUOTE (Bear @ Sep 9 2017, 08:24 AM)
Could that be reverse racism Flin?  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif
The GetUp you progressives would argue that it is ONLY discrimination/racism when white peoples' do it.

If they want to lead the country maybe they should form a political party... http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/soapbox_888.gif

I added the 'rant' emoji for you Bear. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif It seemed appropriate. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

This article has nothing to do with GetUp, 'progressives, the 'PC Brigade' or any other protest group that you appear to want to focus on.

The group making this proposal are the Aboriginal Peak Organisations NT (APONT) - all Aboriginal organisations.

Since you seem to have an unhealthy interest in GetUp, I'll give you a link to their website, so that you can keep up to date with their current campaigns..

https://www.getup.org.au/

GetUp! is an independent movement to build a progressive Australia and bring participation back into our democracy.

It is not a registered charity, so donations are not tax deductible. Donations to GetUp are declared on receipt, but it is my understanding that it takes 48 hour for them to appear on the website.

GetUp by the numbers
Here's a real-time snapshot of what GetUp members are up to:

https://www.getup.org.au/about/powering-getup

If GetUp were ever to form a political party, they would have a larger membership base than all of the political parties in Australia combined. On average, they would have over 7,000 members in every one of the 150 Federal electorates.

Be thankful that they are just 'progressive activists' Bear. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif







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 Posted: Sep 9 2017, 02:31 PM
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If GetUp were ever to form a political party,


It would upset Bill S and the AWU.

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 Posted: Sep 9 2017, 04:07 PM
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"Since you seem to have an unhealthy interest in GetUp"

What is unhealthy is GetUp you and its affiliates. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif

"GetUp by the numbers
Here's a real-time snapshot of what GetUp members are up to:"


Like these great people Bill?
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"GetUp! is an independent movement to build a progressive Australia and bring participation back into our democracy."

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What a load of bulldust Bill - the only thing 'progressive' is the progressive destruction being done by the left swinging wrecking ball.

"Be thankful that they are just 'progressive activists' Bear. "

Thankful? http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/laugh.gif

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 Posted: Sep 9 2017, 04:29 PM
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Get Up (your nose) have no need to form a political party Bill. They have immense influence over the Labor Party and Greens Party.

I "love" the way the elements of the left, whose aim is to destroy society as it is, have the hide to call themselves progressives.

Regressives is more apt http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_IMHO.png

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