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Charles
 Posted: Yesterday at 09:12 am
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David Feeney still can't find paperwork to prove he renounced British citizenship

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Photo: David Feeney's lawyer told the court the renunciation "was not registered" by the relevant authorities. (ABC News)

Labor backbencher David Feeney has told the High Court he does not yet have any paperwork to prove he revoked his British citizenship before he was elected to Parliament.

Mr Feeney and his colleague Katy Gallagher, an ACT senator, have both been referred to the High Court to determine their eligibility over dual citizenship concerns.

Their cases were heard for the first time at a preliminary directions hearing this morning in Brisbane.

Section 44 of the constitution prohibits dual citizens from serving in federal parliament, and has already cost seven politicians their seats in parliament and prompted two by-elections.

The latest politicians caught up in the dual citizenship cloud were referred to the High Court in December, after a register detailing every MP and senator's foreign links was made public.

Mr Feeney's father was born in Northern Ireland, and documents provided to the citizenship register showed that meant he may have been entitled to dual British citizenship.

He told the Parliament he had applied to renounce his British citizenship in 2007, but could not find the relevant renunciation documents. His case was then referred to the High Court.

Thomas O'Brien, a lawyer for Mr Feeney, told the hearing on Friday his client still did not have any paperwork to provide to the court for consideration.

"For some reason, it was not registered by the relevant UK authorities," Mr O'Brien said.

Senator Gallagher's mother was born in Ecuador to British parents and she obtained British citizenship by descent.


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Photo: Labor senator Katy Gallagher has strongly denied being a dual citizen. (AAP: Alan Porritt)

Documents she provided to the citizenship register in December showed she was still a dual citizen of the United Kingdom when she nominated for the last federal election.

She had taken the steps required to give up her UK citizenship before nominations for that election closed, but did not receive confirmation from the UK Home Office until August 16 — two months after the cut-off date.

Experts are still being sought to consider further evidence from both politicians.

A date for a further directions hearing has not yet been finalised, but it is likely to be held in February or March.

Justice Susan Kiefel said the court was trying to "treat every matter" as one of extreme urgency, and noted the resumption of Parliament was drawing closer.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-19/david-feeney-still-no-paperwork-to-prove-renounced-citizenship/9343916?section=politics

Labor supporters were gloating when MPs from other parties either resigned or were investigated over Section 44. They claimed all their candidates had passed stringent examination. They even claimed it was a "witch hunt" when doubts were raised over Labor MPs.

Mr Feeney's excuse is little better than "the dog ate my homework" story while Senator Gallagher apparently missed the cut off date.

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 Posted: Yesterday at 01:36 pm
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I'm still very much of the strong opinion that this dual citizen renouncement is a load of hogwash and shouldn't be allowed. If your a dual citizen by decent then to bloody bad.

If they got rid of the renouncing method then we wouldn't have 3/4 of the current people in Parliament and therefore we wouldn't have the treasonous traitors we currently have in Parliament, plus the new senator would be told to look else where.

Its just one big bloody joke and jobs for their mates and stuff the people they stood to represent, now their snouts are in the trough.

As far as Feeney is concerned no documents then out you go now buddy. See ya later dippy.
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Why are they not charged for false declarations I would be It hurts we paid 11 million because the did not read the questions I is the law stupid or not What Happens if I Lie on a Statutory Declaration Form? | NSW Courts
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Nov 11, 2014 - Even if you lied about on a statutory declaration form about a traffic offence – as many false statutory declarations do – you are not committing a traffic offence, but a criminal offence. This means that, if convicted, you will get a criminal record. Penalties for lying can be far more than a fine, a few demerit ...

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Yes Charka they should all be charged with making a false declarations under the Crimes Act 1958. which should be followed up.
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No surprises here, just another example of the hypocrisy of the progressive left. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif

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the crimes act seems to be forgotten It will not be forgotten What Happens if I Lie on a Statutory Declaration Form? | NSW Courts
https://nswcourts.com.au/articles/what-happens-if-i-lie-on-a-statutory-declaration-form/

Nov 11, 2014 - Even if you lied about on a statutory declaration form about a traffic offence – as many false statutory declarations do – you are not committing a traffic offence, but a criminal offence. This means that, if convicted, you will get a criminal record. Penalties for lying can be far more than a fine, a few demerit ... nhow will thw spin this

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Feeney won't be any loss. He won't be re-endorsed to stand in the by-election for Batman and Labor is likely to regain his seat.

Senator Gallagher's problem is only one of timing and the High Court will rule on her eligibility. If the High Court's decision finds against her, and we can't be sure of that because of the 'reasonable steps' argument, she will be back at the first available opportunity.

I wouldn't gloat about 'Labor's woes' over 'dual citizenship' if I were you guys. There are at least 16 Coalition members who didn't even try to provide evidence of the 'reasonable steps' that they took to renounce their dual citizenship.

It should be noted that it was Curly who referred Feeney to the HC, and Senator Gallagher referred herself to the HC.

Contrast that to the Coalition who have been dragged, kicking and screaming, to the HC. Says a lot about their ethics. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/Smiley_winknod.gif

They used Senor Matt Canavan's defence, stating that they had 'legal advice' that they were OK......and then failed to produce that advice on the 'register'.

More than likely that advice was obtained from George Brandis's Solicitor General - and we know how reliable that advice turned out to be at the last 'dual citizenship' appear4ance at the High Court. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

The only thing that has saved a whole heap of Coalition members from being referred to the High Court is the ONE VOTE MAJORITY that Turnbull currently has in the House of Representatives.

They are a heartbeat away from having Labor and the cross benches referring a whole heap to the High Court.

Labor has led the 2PP at the last 26 consecutive NewsPolls, so they are looking sweet. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Only four more negative NewsPolls to go for Brian Trumble before someone rolls him. You've got to laugh..
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Who's gloating Bill? http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

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Bill they were only smug because they thought nothing to see here that is They are ALL just as bad not even reading what they sign The spin has started Silly constitutions etc Most have not abide d by it for years Keep your standards low ,you are seldom disappointed They have miss read us it will not go away user posted image

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"Sweet" is not a word that I would use in connection to any political party in Australia. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif

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