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Posted by: Phillip J. Jul 18 2017, 06:04 PM
What possible reason would this Somali gentleman have for killing this innocent lady? No warning, and even his partner was astounded at the cop's action! Less than two years on the job! Why didn't they follow the rules? Cameras not on, as well! He seemed to just attack and murder the lady, and she was the one that called in the first place! He thought her phone was a gun? Well, the other cop that was with her wasn't concerned about her phone, but the killer, from inside of the vehicle, shot her multiple times, with the bullets zooming past his police partner to make the kill shots! Don't tell me that that's standard procedure. There should be a lot more screening of applicants. The Mayor or somebody made a big, big deal about it being the first Somali recruit! I think they rushed him through based on that alone, just to seen to be...(wait for it)...POLITICALLY CORRECT! It now sounds like this person didn't have the right psychological makeup for the job. Well, he certainly proved that!🔫

Posted by: lee Jul 18 2017, 07:07 PM
"The Star Tribune reports Noor has been sued once for his involvement in a May 25, 2017 incident, where he and two other officers came to a woman’s home and took her to a hospital. The woman alleges this constituted false imprisonment and assault"

"In total, he reportedly has had three complaints made against him in two years — including the lawsuit.

Two are from 2017 and one from 2016 is closed and according to Lou Raguse of Kare 11 is marked ‘not to be made public’."

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/shooting-death-of-justine-damond-in-minneapolis-sparks-calls-for-federal-investigation/news-story/2d2486888c0c6d8fa1ca3d8f4bc7df91

Posted by: Michael.W Jul 18 2017, 08:11 PM
I hope he gets the death plenty, That's all the bloody coward deserves. Long drop with a short bloody rope.

I won't print what I would really like to say, it would be exactly what many are thinking but I can't upset the politically correct attitudes of this world.

Posted by: lee Jul 18 2017, 08:51 PM
Apparently he is still under investigation for two of the previous complaints.

Posted by: scepo Jul 19 2017, 06:41 AM
I suspect that we will never know the truth. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Flin Jul 19 2017, 07:20 AM
I suspect that Scepo is right again. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: scepo Jul 19 2017, 11:23 AM
Justine Damond: Killer cop Mohamed Noor could have opened fire after 'loud sound' near car, investigators say

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Photo: Mohamed Noor has declined to be interviewed by investigators. (AP: City of Minneapolis)


The fatal shooting of Australian woman Justine Damond by a Minneapolis police officer came right after officers were startled by a loud sound near their patrol vehicle, investigators say.

Key points:

It "would be good common sense to investigate" whether sound of fireworks going off startled the officers, source reveals

Reference to fireworks heard during radio conversations between officers, police dispatchers

Mohamed Noor declined to be interviewed by investigators, the update says


A source with knowledge of Minneapolis law enforcement, who asked not to be identified, said it "would be good common sense to investigate" whether the sound of fireworks going off in the area might have startled Officer Mohamed Noor into shooting the Australian dead.

Ms Damond, 40, was shot and killed as officers responded to her 911 call about a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her house in Minneapolis on Saturday night.

The reference to fireworks is heard during the police radio conversations between Mr Noor, his partner Officer Matthew Harrity, the police dispatcher co-ordinating the emergency call and other officers rushing to scene.

At one point the dispatcher asks for a precinct sergeant to acknowledge a report of "two shots heard from the east".

"We heard those sounds from the station," an officer responds

"Those are probably aerial fireworks."

The update from Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension said Mr Noor, who was sitting in the passenger seat, fired past his partner and hit Ms Damond in the abdomen as she approached the driver's side.

Mr Noor has declined to be interviewed by investigators, the update said.

What we know about the shooting

What we know about Australian Justine Damond, the police shooting that took her life and the officer who fired the fatal shot.

Mr Noor had just two years' experience on the force but already had two other complaints levelled at him.

This morning Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said the Federal Government was seeking answers about the "inexplicable" shooting of Ms Damond.
"It is a shocking killing, it is inexplicable," he said.

"Our hearts go out to her family.

"Yes, we are demanding answers on behalf of her family and our hearts go out to her family and all of her friends and loved ones."

Ms Damond's fiance, businessman Don Damond, has also called for justice for the vet and yoga teacher, who had lived in the US since 2015.

Family and friends of Ms Damond gathered on a Sydney beach this morning to pay silent tribute to the Australian.

Dozens carried candles in the early morning light on Freshwater Beach and each mourner tossed a single pink blossom into the Pacific Ocean.

Pink was the 40-year-old mediation teacher's favourite colour. Almost 300 people gathered for the memorial.

"We're here to come together as a community around our beautiful Justine to honour her life, share our love and mourn her death," the family said in a statement.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-19/justine-damond-police-shooting-followed-loud-sound-near-car/8723054


There is his get out of jail excuse.


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Mohamed Noor declined to be interviewed by investigators



I'd have thought that he would have to face an interview. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Michael.W Jul 19 2017, 11:28 AM
Just another trigger happy arse hole. It was reported that is been treated as a homicide case. We will have to wait and see.

Posted by: Phillip J. Jul 19 2017, 02:20 PM
Can this killer cop actually decline to be questioned by Police investigators? I can't believe that he could say no, but, then again, poor Mohamed has been through enough! http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Bill Jul 19 2017, 02:53 PM
QUOTE (Phillip J. @ Jul 19 2017, 02:20 PM)
Can this killer cop actually decline to be questioned by Police investigators? I can't believe that he could say no, but, then again, poor Mohamed has been through enough!  http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif  http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif


Apparently yes Phillip - as is the case in Australia. His lawyers advice would have been to decline an interview at this stage.

Unlike scepo and Flin - I 'suspect' that we will eventually "know the truth".......and we may not like it or accept it.


Posted by: Michael.W Jul 19 2017, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (Bill @ Jul 19 2017, 02:53 PM)
QUOTE (Phillip J. @ Jul 19 2017, 02:20 PM)
Can this killer cop actually decline to be questioned by Police investigators? I can't believe that he could say no, but, then again, poor Mohamed has been through enough!  http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif  http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif


Apparently yes Phillip - as is the case in Australia. His lawyers advice would have been to decline an interview at this stage.

Unlike scepo and Flin - I 'suspect' that we will eventually "know the truth".......and we may not like it or accept it.


If the reports I heard have any credit this trigger happy gun slinging mongrel is been well protected on advise to not even make a statement.

I guess self incrimination might lead to the death plenty. I can only hope that's exactly his future.

Posted by: Phillip J. Jul 19 2017, 07:51 PM
So what has he got to hide? Or, is he getting preferential treatment simply because, being Somali, he is "flavour of the month?" Perhaps the City of Minneapolis council people don't want to admit that they made a mistake, by putting this murderer in a uniform and gave him a gun. Oh yes, they are SO progressive, so PC, and now look what's happened! He murdered an innocent woman. Why isn't he in jail? I would be if I committed a crime like this! I guess that they can't acknowledge that they were the ones that placed good old Mohamed in this position. They were too busy dressing their pet up to worry about his character and his obviously hateful attitude. Totally mental thing to do. How can he possibly justify his violent act against an innocent lady (in pyjamas, yet!) even while she was talking to the other policeman? http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif 🙁🔫

Posted by: Bill Jul 19 2017, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (Phillip J. @ Jul 19 2017, 07:51 PM)
So what has he got to hide? Or, is he getting preferential treatment simply because, being Somali, he is "flavour of the month?" Perhaps the City of Minneapolis council people don't want to admit that they made a mistake, by putting this murderer in a uniform and gave him a gun. Oh yes, they are SO progressive, so PC, and now look what's happened! He murdered an innocent woman. Why isn't he in jail? I would be if I committed a crime like this! I guess that they can't acknowledge that they were the ones that placed good old Mohamed in this position. They were too busy dressing their pet up to worry about his character and his obviously hateful attitude. Totally mental thing to do. How can he possibly justify his violent act against an innocent lady (in pyjamas, yet!) even while she was talking to the other policeman?  http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif  http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif 🙁🔫

Hi Phillip

About a month ago, in the same city, a white policeman shot and killed a black motorist sitting in his car. No charges have been laid to the best of my knowledge.

That's why I stated that, "Unlike scepo and Flin - I 'suspect' that we will eventually "know the truth".......and we may not like it or accept it."

The people laying flowers at the home of Justine Damond were also writing down the names, on the driveway, of others killed by police in Minneapolis.

Can you see why this incident will take a while to sort out ?

Posted by: Phillip J. Jul 20 2017, 06:21 AM
Well, I don't know how you see it, Bill, but I can only see it as a cop murdering an innocent woman!
I don't know the circumstances behind the "white cop kills black motorist" story.
I only know about "Black cop murders white pedestrian woman."
From your information, it seems as though cops in Minneapolis are issued with a "keep out of jail" 007 card when they join up. They must have more rights than the average "man-in-the-street" murderers!

Posted by: Michael.W Jul 20 2017, 09:04 PM
So lets get this straight Bill.

This woman rings the police as an emergency to report a crime taking place, not once but twice.

The police finally show up, the woman goes to the police to talk to them as they pulled up at her place of residents

The trigger happy mongrel in the passenger seat pulls his firearm out leans across the driver of the Police vehicle and shoots her twice which results in her cold blooded death

Now we have Pastor using Black verses the White racist syndrome because if he is charged there will an uproar as you point out about the White cop shooting a Black person without being charged.

To me the fundamental difference here is the person reporting a crime is murdered in cold blood IMHO.

I hate the media reporting this cops religious background as an excuse for his actions.

I guess you right about one thing though we will eventually find out the truth.

Let take a guess the un-armed deceased shot by police was self defence by the police officer. lets see if its there any correctness in it.

lay your bets please !!!

If they don't charge him, then there system is setting a very high precedence for the continuation of police shootings by gutless cowards like this poor excuse of human being, regardless of colour or creed IMHO.

Posted by: Phillip J. Jul 21 2017, 10:59 AM
As I suspected, and it has been confirmed elsewhere, that the Mayor of Minneapolis, Betsy Hodge, did push him through, and allegedly used him as her "Poster Boy" and constantly used the word, SOMALI, when referring to Mohamed Noor and his new exalted gun-toting position. If the story is true, the city is virtually Somali-occupied these days, due to the massive influx of these African people. Don't you wish that Australia would learn to say no, when you look at what's happening elsewhere, like France, Sweden, etc. You name it, they're there!
Having deaf and blind leaders out here will not help our country to escape from being overrun by these Centrelink lovers. Is it too late, even now, to turn back the tide? I suspect that it is, especially when OUR governments are seemingly against the people's wishes! When did the world go to crap?
Look at Melbourne, look at any major town. If they haven't taken it yet, don't worry, it won't be long before it'll be theirs. It'll be far too late for boo-hoos then! 😢😰

Posted by: Michael.W Jul 21 2017, 11:10 AM
Heard a press conference this morning by the police chief. The Police chief made it clear that proper procedures were not followed by the 2 officers. The woman police Chief officer made it clear that due process will happen and justice will be done.

The tone from this female chief police officer I get the feeling this guy's career is over and he will be thrown to wolfs so to speak.

The Police chief apologized to family and her Australian family making the remarks about due process and justice will be served. Still yet to hear of any charges to be laid.

Looks like all bets are off Bill. Sorry mate you had your chance.
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Posted by: Bill Jul 24 2017, 02:18 PM
Mohamed Noor still hasn't been arrested, in spite of the evidence by an eye witness sitting less than a metre from him when the shooting occurred.

Why would that be ?

Posted by: Phillip J. Jul 24 2017, 02:46 PM
Now I'm reading that the Police Chief has been sacked by the hijab-wearing Mayor! Doesn't it all stink of blaming and covering up? And, through it all, Mohamed is still refusing to be questioned! If he was on the up and up, he would be volunteering information. If he is innocent, (which he can't be!) why isn't he helping the investigators with their enquiries? The amazing thing is, a policeman murders a civilian, and doesn't have face anyone. If I murdered another person, can I just go home and say to the police, "Nah, sorry, I don't want to talk about it!" I would very much doubt it. I'd be in the lock-up faster than you could say, Redrum!
I think, in answer to Bill's post, it's seriously all about the mayor trying to extract herself from it all, seeing as how she was the one that put Mr. Noor in the force in the first place, not on ability, but purely bcause he was a Somali guy. Not because of his "excellent ability to respond to situations, and stay calm in situations like this" but just being Somali!

Posted by: Michael.W Jul 24 2017, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (Bill @ Jul 24 2017, 02:18 PM)
Mohamed Noor still hasn't been arrested, in spite of the evidence by an eye witness sitting less than a metre from him when the shooting occurred.

Why would that be ?


Hi Bill, Haven't seen anything about a witness 1 metre away but I have read that a certain group of people have demand that Mayor resign, strangely enough her demands for the police chief to stand down was immediate but she is staying defiant to last breathe. Oddly enough by the press conference reports the high majority of them demanding she resign were mostly African Americans.

It appears that the people have a case, that whilst she didn't fire the weapon, she most certainty helped to load the gun that took Justine's life by this cop killer acting like Wild Bill of the wild west.

But I guess that politicians over their are not different to here either, someone will be the fall Guy or in this case, "Woman" to save their own pathetic sole from the eyes of the people.



Posted by: Flin Jul 25 2017, 07:44 AM
A person who comes along on their pushie and see's a copper doing CPR on their victim after the all the shooting is not a witness.
The witness Bill mentioned would be the other policeman in the car with the shooter.
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Posted by: Phillip J. Aug 30 2017, 11:51 AM
I notice that this deliberate murder of this white lady has faded from the news. Are they hoping that "out of sight, out of mind" will cover up the crime committed by this Somali cop? Notice that we have ZERO answers as yet. Melbourne, be on your guard. As a matter of fact, Australia be totally aware of what happens when do-gooders, from the imagined safety of their positions, talk about rights for asylum seekers, open borders, we must help them, etc. what a pity that they don't have the same approach to deserving pensioners, homeless people, and the like! Oh well, I guess it's all about priorities (and looking good in the eyes of other bleeding hearts!) it's called selective caring! 😡😡👎

Posted by: Phillip J. Nov 4 2017, 06:52 PM
.....and, conveniently, the witness (the other policeman in the vehicle) is not speaking up, either. It's known as "operation coverup!" As was pointed out elsewhere, if anyone else did this evil deed, he or she would be languishing in a cell right now! Let's be upfront about it. This is just a big cover, only because some Minnesota people in power wants their Somali people to not look anything but perfect. I truly believe that, and when you look into it, the Somali residents are increasingly flooding the city and gradually taking over! It's what they do. Just have a look at Melbourne, for a start!

Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 12 2017, 06:32 AM
Do you notice that the brutal, uncalled for, slaying of Justine has been considered not important news anymore?
What's Mahomed doing these days? Enjoying his life? Great! It's a pity that we can't say the same about Justine.....
The only thing to come out of this tragedy is that it shows us the mindset of the African people. Somali, Sudanese, you name it, there is a massive percentage of them that are nothing but machete-wielding lawless cowardly thugs that have not the slightest clue about how to behave!

Our government is not paying heed to questionable "refugees!" Australia beware, it's coming, ready or not! 😡 😥


Posted by: Michael.W Dec 12 2017, 12:49 PM
It all stinks of a protection system for the trigger happy murder.

Posted by: Bear Dec 12 2017, 02:27 PM
There is so much killing in the world most people quickly forget Phillip, a life has little value to some people.

Apex gang brings Sudanese-Muslim violence to the heart of Melbourne.

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Prime Minister Rudd increased Australia's migrant intake from 150,000 to 350,000 overnight. Many of those were uneducated and with very little to offer. Now that is the role of immigration, to lift the newcomers up to your standard. Except when you bring in so many in one go, they have the reverse effect - they reduce your standard to theirs.

https://www.libertycampaign.org/apex-gang-brings-sudanese-muslim-violence-to-the-heart-of-melbourne

Posted by: Bill Dec 13 2017, 12:55 PM
Hi Bear

I think I've brought this to your attention before, but here goes again...

The Sudanese refugees who have come to Australia have done so under the Sponsored Immigration program that was in place long before Rudd was elected.

The vast majority who do attend churches are Christian (Catholic in fact). ^They were sponsored by the Roman Catholic Church and their ongoing community support is provided by Centacare (Catholic), the Catholic Social Justice Commission, and Anglicare (Church of England)

Some reading for you - OK, it's only Wikipedia, but it's a better reference than the one you supplied http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_IMHO.png . http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif


Apex (gang)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_(gang)

Apparently, there have only been two 'deportations' and they've been Kiwis. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif


Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 13 2017, 02:38 PM
Bill, as you can see, this post was primarily about the slaying of Justine, because the coverup is happening and I don't believe that #%^* Mahomed should be walking away from it, although he is, so far! But, seeing as how we're drifting towards immigration as well, (and, it is a worthy subject!) It certainly seems as though the Catholic (Christian) groups that are sponsored by these religious organisations, are not being controlled by the church groups very well. If you misbehave after being sponsored, why doesn't the church withdraw their sponsorship and turf the bastards?
It matters not if the gangs in Melbourne are Muslim or, as you point out, Christian!
Whichever they are, they're certainly NOT adhering to their "Christian" teachings. Muslims are another story. They are actually adhering to their "bible!"
The point is, they are all predominantly African, and there is something inherently wrong with their behaviour. Bashing, thieving, including B&E, and all the rest, including raping. Regardless of their religious/cultural following, they don't belong out here, living the good life, if that's the way they repay the country that accepted them into our society! Let's just mention Sweden, Italy, Germany, Britain, just to name a few! The trouble is, as always, our "leaders" pretend to be deaf and blind when it comes to things like this! We can never make this country "great again" because there are far too many out here to remove, and how many generations will it take before the country is literally overrun by people of a different persuasion? Not many, I would say, by their breeding potential!

Posted by: Bill Dec 14 2017, 01:56 PM
Hi Phillip
This is the latest (today)news on Justine Damond. All of the current news is on NewsLtd websites. So far no one else is following it to my best knowledge. They may decide to publish after the Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, makes his statement in the next week or so.

It appears to have taken on a far greater meaning in Minneapolis than just the tragic death of Justine Damond, judging by the diverse groups who will be attending the rally at Justine's former home..


Protest groups in Minneapolis to hold rally over decision in police shooting of Justine Damond

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/protest-groups-in-minneapolis-to-hold-rally-over-decision-in-police-shooting-of-justine-damond/news-story/f748ad9702a479b2c3f477c0cb3ab6c9

Justice for Justine and Black Lives Matter announcing a street rally will be held whether the police officer who shot dead Australian life coach Justine Damond is charged or not.

Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, who will decide if Officer Mohamed Noor is charged, has indicated he will make a decision before the end of the year.

Mr Freeman has not signalled a specific date.

Ms Damond’s neighbours, friends and members of Justice for Justine and groups including Black Lives Matter, Blue Lies Matter and Communities United have announced they will stage a rally on the day Mr Freeman makes the highly-anticipated decision or the following day.

The rally will be held at 6.30pm near Ms Damond’s home on 50th St & Washburn Ave, Minneapolis.

Ms Damond, dressed in her pyjamas, was shot by Officer Noor after she called 911 just before midnight on July 15 to report a woman screaming in her affluent Minneapolis neighbourhood.

Officer Noor was sitting in the front passenger seat of his police vehicle in the alley and when Ms Damond approached in the darkness he shot across his partner in the driver’s seat, Officer Matthew Harrity, and out the car’s window, fatally striking the Australian in the stomach.

The former vet, yoga instructor and meditation guide, who moved to the US in 2015 to be with Mr Damond, had called police for help after hearing what she thought was a woman being sexually assaulted in the lane behind their home.

Officer Noor has refused to explain to investigators why he fired through the drivers’ side door from the front passenger seat of the patrol car he was riding in. However, Officer Matthew Harrity, who was driving the car and has co-operated with the investigation, said the pair was startled by a loud noise and saw a man riding a bike towards them shortly before the gunshot. Officer Noor’s lawyer indicated he would say the pair was startled and thought they were being “ambushed”.

Neither officer was using their body-camera at the time. There was just one other witness to the moments after the shooting, a bike rider who has not been identified but who spoke with investigators.

Mr Freeman is considering whether to charge Noor with murder, manslaughter or a lesser charge, such as unlawful firing of his service revolver.




Posted by: Bear Dec 14 2017, 05:54 PM
Hi Bear

I think I've brought this to your attention before, but here goes again...


Hi Bill,

You need to realise how bad things are getting, no amount of candy will hide the problem...


Apex Vigilante.




Enough Is Enough.



APEX is out of control




Check out some of the comments below the clips.



Posted by: Bill Dec 15 2017, 10:42 AM
Hi Phillip
Further to my last post.....



Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, makes his statement in the next week or so.


Todays Guardian posted the statement, actually a Press Conference, by Mike Freeman, that goes some way towards explaining the delay.

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Mike Freeman says he does not have the evidence to decide yet whether he’ll file charges against officer Mohamed Noor

A US county attorney handling the police shooting of Australian Justine Damond has blamed investigators for the delay in the decision on whether to press charges against police officer Mohamed Noor, saying he doesn’t yet have the evidence.

Mike Freeman, attorney for Hennepin county, was recorded at a meeting on Wednesday night saying: “I’ve got to have the evidence and I don’t have it yet. And let me just say, it’s not my fault. So if it isn’t my fault, who didn’t do their jobs? … Investigators, and they don’t work for me.”

The prosecutor made the remarks after activists confronted him at a union reception and asked him why he had not yet announced charges in the case against Noor. Freeman had previously indicated he would make a decision before the end of the year.

“If you look at this, here’s a nice lady who hears something bad outside, she calls the cops, they don’t come, she calls again, they drive by in her alley, they don’t stop to talk with her, and she comes out in her jammies, and she’s killed by a cop. Sounds easy, doesn’t it? But, it’s not just,” Freeman said in the video posted to Facebook by an activist group. “Can I prove the cop shot her? I could’ve done that the first day. That’s not how it works.”

Damond was shot by Noor in Minneapolis in July after she called 911 to report a woman screaming outside her house in her affluent suburban neighbourhood. According to information released so far by investigators, Damond approached the the police vehicle, tapped the back and walked to the driver’s side window, when Noor, who was in the passenger seat, shot across the driver, his partner, striking Damond in the abdomen.

Freeman, who does not appear to realise he was being recorded, expressed his frustrations with Noor’s decision not to talk to investigators by invoking his constitutional rights. He also criticised Noor’s partner, who was in the driver’s seat. “He won’t answer my questions and he doesn’t have to. We all have fifth amendment rights ... I can’t talk to her because she’s gone, and the other cop just gave us shit,” he said.

Investigators from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension completed its inquiry and handed over their findings to Freeman in September.

This week groups including Justice for Justine announced they would hold a street rally in Minneapolis, whether charges were laid or not.

Posted by: lee Dec 15 2017, 02:57 PM
"Mike Freeman, attorney for Hennepin county, was recorded at a meeting on Wednesday night saying: “I’ve got to have the evidence and I don’t have it yet. And let me just say, it’s not my fault. So if it isn’t my fault, who didn’t do their jobs? … Investigators, and they don’t work for me.” "

"Investigators from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension completed its inquiry and handed over their findings to Freeman in September."


So which investigators is he waiting on?

Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 15 2017, 03:07 PM
Was Noor's partner another Somali? I wonder if he was! But, mainly, that bastard cop, Noor (who happens to be black) must be as dumb as shit to approach it the way he did! A subhuman if I ever saw one. What he did was NOT normal, and there can be no excuses, ever, for what he did! And, neither of them followed procedure! There can be no justification for his actions, and I'd love to see someone explain it in a logical manner. I won't hang by the earlobes waiting for that! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Michael.W Dec 15 2017, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (lee @ Dec 15 2017, 02:57 PM)
"Mike Freeman, attorney for Hennepin county, was recorded at a meeting on Wednesday night saying: “I’ve got to have the evidence and I don’t have it yet. And let me just say, it’s not my fault. So if it isn’t my fault, who didn’t do their jobs? … Investigators, and they don’t work for me.” "

"Investigators from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension completed its inquiry and handed over their findings to Freeman in September."


So which investigators is he waiting on?


Wanaka there is a un-armed woman with bullets in her body that resulted in her death by a F$%king trigger happy piece of shit who is being protected by a police force that wants to act above the laws by using, I heard a big bang and then I fired my weapon 3 times across the my partner's body & shot the un-armed person in distress who rang the police for support & protection for what's believe to rape behind her property dead.

If his so called partner had any backbone he would have arrested the piece of shit that night.

Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 15 2017, 08:30 PM
I totally agree with you, Michael. Why WASN'T the bastard arrested on the spot? Now it appears as though the partner is covering for Noor, as well!

Posted by: Bill Dec 16 2017, 12:07 PM
No offence guys but, would you be just as outraged if the cop was a white man and the victim was a beautiful black woman ?

The fact that protesters are coming from
Justice for Justine
Black Lives Matter
Blue Lies Matter and
Communities United

seems to indicate that the issue of 'police violemce' is much bigger than "Justice for Justine".

Much is being made of the fact that Noor has refused to be interviewed by investigators.

If I was his lawyer, I would have counselled him not to be interviewed lest he become part of a media fuelled 'witch burning' frenzy.

Noor has rights - the 'right to remain silent' is one of them, just as it was for the white police who shot black men.

This story has a long way to go.


Posted by: Bear Dec 16 2017, 01:36 PM
"No offence guys but, would you be just as outraged if the cop was a white man and the victim was a beautiful black woman ?"

Not offended Bill, you are so predictable - pull the race card, create a skin colour problem when one never existed, all part of the socialist agenda Bill, the NWO maaate.

If a beautiful black lady had been killed under the same circumstances then yes I would be outraged - Better put this in the only terms a socialist will understand, neo-nazi, redneck, white extremist bigot, islamophobe etc etc - white Police Officers put up with the socialist BS every day Bill.
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Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 16 2017, 02:30 PM
I don't think it could be true, Bill, but some people could read into your posts that you care about the wellbeing of the murdering cop, than you do the victim.
Most of your posts seem to generally stick up for "poor" Mohamed. In the interests of fair justice, I would've imagined that you would think that Mr. Noor was "very hasty" and trigger happy, to say the least! He should be hauled over the coals, and what is he hiding, by deliberately not activating his body camera? That is supposed to be standard procedure, anyway! So......?
The same outrage would be felt by any thinking person, if the lady was, as you put it, "a beautiful black woman!"
This is nothing to do with a victim being beautiful or not, it's about justice being seen to be done, and so far, all that's happened is, the big coverup for Mohamed Noor, and absolutely no justice for Justine! It's, so far, been only justice for Mohamed!! http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Michael.W Dec 16 2017, 03:39 PM
Bill, I couldn't care less about what colour or creed people are, I'm outraged at the fact from day one the authorities went out of there way to protect this piece of scum, All to quick to shoot an innocent person who did nothing wrong except ring the police on a possible crime. Would I be so outraged if Justine was an American, probably not because the Americans themselves would be and the shooter most likely hunted like the dog he is, but Justine was an Australian and that makes me mad at the circumstances that evolved to protect this trigger happy murdering piece of scum. The Mayor went into overtime to ensure that he didn't face any scrutiny and they pulled every PC card they could, they even fired the chief of police over the shooting.

It's pretty clear the aim by the US administration, by the so called Mayor is to ensure that he doesn't see the inside of a court room and Justine life is to be swept under the carpet.

Personally I hope he gets the death plenty he deserves nothing less if that state has it. Their have been other shootings as well by the American police, remember when a black colour skinned person was shot, oh the outrage, they hunted that white coloured skinned police officer, right the from time it happened.

What did they do with this scumbag they decided to suspend him on pay whilst he declares the 5th, to which he is entitled to do under the US laws, but the investigators or the prosecutors are doing the level best to stall the whole affair and from what I can see it appears to be based on his religious background just like how he was introduced to the police academy. Maybe the media are feeding us BS but the actions are speaking volumes on their own.

Posted by: Michael.W Dec 16 2017, 04:00 PM
If Justine had of shot the cop, the situation would have been 100% reversal if she lived to see the inside of the court room because you could lay odds on that every copper would be out to ensure that Justine would be shot dead and if not, they would ensure that Justine received the maximum the court could impose within days.

Posted by: Bill Dec 17 2017, 02:01 PM
Just trying to point out the legal issues here guys.

Justine's family understand the issues at stake. and that it's bigger than Justine..

Why can't you ?

Again - no offence. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Posted by: Flin Dec 17 2017, 03:59 PM
I know one thing for sure, if I had of been that murder's partner, I wouldn't be protecting him, regardless of age, race, colour, religion, creed, gender,sexual preference political sympathies or personal hygiene.
Imagine some idiot firing three shots just across the front of your face. Your ears would have ringing for a week.
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Posted by: Michael.W Dec 17 2017, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (Bill @ Dec 17 2017, 02:01 PM)
Just trying to point out the legal issues here guys.

Justine's family understand the issues at stake. and that it's bigger than Justine..

Why can't you ?

Again - no offence.  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif


Bill I' ve taken no offence at your remarks, They are valid however, Justine is the one that is at stake here, What is happening is they are trying to justify the killer actions here, because he is a cop. In other words they are trying to justify his reason for shooting Justine as if his life was threaten when he was not. He is alive but the innocent person is dead because of his severe lack of judgement and ability to do his job. They are making a mockery of her life.

This killer was quite happy to parade himself in uniform as a sanctitude person when he really is sanctimony.


Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 17 2017, 06:16 PM
Personally, I can't see Justine's family "understanding" the issues at stake.
If it was my daughter, I would be wanting this possibly non-thinking "policeman" (sworn to serve?) to be convicted of murder, because that is exactly what Mr. Noor did. He murdered her for no reason.
If it was all on the up and up, he would be willing to help with enquiries, even for his own sake, let alone for the victim, but he's saying nothing, so obviously he has nothing to say that could clear him. There can't be anything that he could say that WOULD clear him! Why take so long to bring a killer to justice?
What is horrifically bigger than a cop murdering an innocent lady? How can it be bigger? http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 22 2017, 08:46 AM
On the news last night (21/12/2017) they showed and talked to Justine's grieving family, barely holding it together, while asking why it's taking so long to bring "someone" to justice. They appeared to be concerned that not enough was being done, and that possibly the case is not a priority in any way. I do suggest that her family are NOT UNDERSTANDING, (as was suggested) and it seems that they DON'T think that the pussyfooting around is going to bring Noor down. I can't see why Mohamed Noor is allowed to just say nothing and cruise on through his life. I'm surprised people would agree that his lawyer should advise him to not say boo about anything.
The line "Noor" has rights.....just seems laughable under the circumstances. He took away the rights of a member of the public, and....he walks! No such luck for Justine. She couldn't walk, after being brutally murdered. She had to leave the scene in a body bag. It's becoming a cover-up, to cover the African gentleman's derrière! Normally, you slay someone, you pay the price. Not Mohamed. It hasn't cost him anything. I'll bet he's still getting his pay. After all, we can't be seen to do the wrong thing by him, can we? Because.....HE HAS RIGHTS! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Michael.W Dec 22 2017, 09:54 AM
QUOTE (Phillip J. @ Dec 17 2017, 06:16 PM)
Personally, I can't see Justine's family "understanding" the issues at stake.
If it was my daughter, I would be wanting this possibly non-thinking "policeman" (sworn to serve?) to be convicted of murder, because that is exactly what Mr. Noor did. He murdered her for no reason.
If it was all on the up and up, he would be willing to help with enquiries, even for his own sake, let alone for the victim, but he's saying nothing, so obviously he has nothing to say that could clear him. There can't be anything that he could say that WOULD clear him! Why take so long to bring a killer to justice?
What is horrifically bigger than a cop murdering an innocent lady? How can it be bigger?  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif


PJ, If was my daughter the barstard would be dead, He wouldn't make the court room and I wouldn't careless what they think either and I wouldn't give a stuff about his religious beliefs either or what rights he thinks he can hide behind. But thats just me.

Posted by: Michael.W Dec 22 2017, 10:00 AM
QUOTE (Phillip J. @ Dec 22 2017, 08:46 AM)
On the news last night (21/12/2017) they showed and talked to Justine's grieving family, barely holding it together, while asking why it's taking so long to bring "someone" to justice. They appeared to be concerned that not enough was being done, and that possibly the case is not a priority in any way. I do suggest that her family are NOT UNDERSTANDING, (as was suggested) and it seems that they DON'T think that the pussyfooting around is going to bring Noor down. I can't see why Mohamed Noor is allowed to just say nothing and cruise on through his life. I'm surprised people would agree that his lawyer should advise him to not say boo about anything.
The line "Noor" has rights.....just seems laughable under the circumstances. He took away the rights of a member of the public, and....he walks! No such luck for Justine. She couldn't walk, after being brutally murdered. She had to leave the scene in a body bag. It's becoming a cover-up, to cover the African gentleman's derrière! Normally, you slay someone, you pay the price. Not Mohamed. It hasn't cost him anything. I'll bet he's still getting his pay. After all, we can't be seen to do the wrong thing by him, can we? Because.....HE HAS RIGHTS!  http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif


His rights would very quickly changed if his so called partner had any balls and filed charges against him.

Posted by: Phillip J. Dec 22 2017, 11:24 AM
I'm with you on all counts, Michael. W
And, why isn't his partner telling it like it is? Both of them broke the rules by not having their body cameras on, for sound and vision. We'll never know what was said by anyone. Justine can't say, and the two upholders of the law WON'T say! Until someone speaks up, they're both guilty, in that case! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Phillip J. Jan 11 2018, 02:34 PM
If Mohamed Noor's police partner was a halfway decent person, he could settle things simply by telling the truth, stating the facts, which is something that Officer Noor seems to be incapable of.
Maybe they don't teach truth and honesty where he hails from!
How did such a dishonest person become an upholder of the law? This is ultimately the doings of the American do-gooders that, for some obscure reason, feel the need to push some African people into jobs that they are not suited for, psychologically speaking. To put a troubled Somali man into a police uniform, AND give him a service pistol, is the height of insanity. And, as proof of that, look what happened to Ms. Damond! http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 9 2018, 03:52 PM
Update on murderer Noor :-

If what I read is true, the bastard is walking free, based on the prosecutor saying that there is not enough evidence to prosecute him. How much evidence do they want? He murdered an unarmed woman, in front of his own partner, and neither of them are talking!
I hope that this story is actually wrong.
But, of course we simply MUST protect the grinning Somali gentleman. He's had a hard time with it! http://s7.postimg.org/j7qtvsrc7/sarcasm.gif
Can you believe American justice, or is it that the Somali cops in that town can just do what they like, incorporating jungle techniques into their job? And, the big coverup continues! Can I shoot a person and walk free, and not have to be interviewed or give any explanation whatsoever? What a loophole for Africans, because, we all know that it's about protecting Muslims. Thousands of people are saying that, and I don't think that everybody is mistaken! http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Flin Mar 9 2018, 04:30 PM
The closing words of the USA Pledge of Allegiance;

",,,one Nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Well so much for that. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 9 2018, 05:31 PM
"...and Liberty and Justice for all!"
Except for Justine, that is.
I wonder if her parents are still being understanding (as Bill stated before!) I would very much doubt if they EVER understood it. Nobody ever understood it, except for the "ostriches" involved in the case.
Actually, I would like Bill to point out the legal issues, that he spoke about!
This is not about Bill being on trial here, but I'm interested in how the justice system is working for Justine, rather than protecting the killer cop! (Umm...it's not, by the way!)
F#^%* Mohamed Noor, and the same to the "justice system" if that's the best that they can do!
What a coverup, and only because he is a Somali that was put in a position of trust, and proceeded to abuse the trust. And, even worse, he doesn't even care! If he was even half a man, he would speak up and take it standing up, but....... http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Bill Mar 10 2018, 12:26 PM
Hi Phillip

I haven't seen what you are referring to yet and, sorry, but I haven't followed it up .In the next couple of days I will though.

This is what I've been trying to point out from the beginning. There is more going on here that just the death of Justine.

Right across America, police have been killing unarmed civilians and, to the best of my knowledge, none have been prosecuted.

Most of the victims have been people of colour, and most of the perpetrators have been white.

The difference in Justine's case is that the victim is white, but to her family's credit, they recognized that the issue wasn't her death but police accountability.

That's why they embraced Black Lives Matter in their protests.

Sadly, and it won't give justice for Justine and her family, the only positive that may come from this is that police forces across America will become more accountable for their action. I'm not going to hold my breath though.

Posted by: scepo Mar 11 2018, 07:08 AM
In general I agree with your post Bill, although I am fairly sure that a few "coppers" have been prosecuted and held accountable for killing black people over there, even though on the face of it at least, not near enough.

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 11 2018, 12:46 PM
But, all I see, (in this case) is, a man murdered a woman and is walking free! It's that simple! It doesn't matter, technically, if the male is a cop, or a Somali nutcase, or that the lady is white or brindle, if you put all that aside, it's a simple case of murder! Is that not enough for a prosecutor?
Otherwise, what's to stop any of us doing the same thing? Speaking hypothetically, of course! I don't think that any murderer should just be able to walk (and smile!) http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Bear Mar 21 2018, 06:12 AM
He may not be walking free Phillip.


Updated 9 minutes ago



Justine Damond: Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor charged over Australian woman's shooting death.

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Justine Damond was shot and killed by a police officer in July last year.

LinkedIn: Justine Ruszczyk


A Minneapolis police officer who shot and killed unarmed Australian woman Justine Damond last July has turned himself in on charges of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

Key points:

Third-degree murder carries a maximum 25 years in prison

Justine Damond's family releases statement saying they hope for conviction

Mohamed Noor has not spoken publicly about the case


Officer Mohamed Noor shot Ms Damond, a 40-year-old life coach, on July 15, minutes after she called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her home.

Her death drew international attention, cost police chief Janee Harteau her job and forced major revisions to the department's policy on body cameras.

Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman outlined the case against Mr Noor in a media conference this morning (AEDT).

"We have a second-by-second understanding of what happened," Mr Freeman said.

"In the short time between when Ms Damond Ruszczyk approached the squad car and the time that officer Noor fired the fatal shot, there is no evidence that officer Noor encountered a threat, appreciated a threat, investigated a threat or confirmed a threat that justified his decision to use deadly force.

"Instead officer Noor intentionally and recklessly fired his handgun from the passenger seat in disregard for human life."

Mr Noor has been booked on a third-degree murder charge for perpetrating an eminently dangerous act while showing a "depraved mind".


Read more:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-21/justine-damond-minneapolis-officer-charged-in-shooting/9569918


Posted by: Flin Mar 21 2018, 07:36 AM
Now, after a fair trial, hang him. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 21 2018, 09:23 AM
None of this will help Justine, now, but perhaps it's just a small bit of justice that should've taken place straight away! What possible reason would he have had for murdering this lady? How does his mind work, and arrive at the decision to kill? Is this his "depraved mind" at work, assessing nothing and acting upon nothing? Stupid bastard! And, his offsider is a bit strange too. He should've put his report on the murder in the hands of the investigators straight away. I mean, don't the Police Chiefs say things like "I want your report on my desk tomorrow morning, without fail!" Or has there been a lot of dithering going on, while they all try to cover their arses?

Posted by: Michael.W Mar 21 2018, 09:49 AM
Yep I hope he gets the full 25 years if found guilty.
QUOTE (Flin @ Mar 21 2018, 07:36 AM)
Now, after a fair trial, hang him. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/mad.gif


Twice just to make sure. !!!

Posted by: Bear Mar 21 2018, 06:18 PM
"his offsider is a bit strange too."

The offsider still claims he was "startled by a loud noise right before Ms Damond approached the driver's side window of their police car." - from the above article that I posted this morning.


A policeman who was with Mr Noor at the time of the shooting, Matthew Harrity, told investigators that he was startled by a loud noise right before Ms Damond approached the driver's side window of their police car.

Mr Harrity, who was driving, said Mr Noor then fired his weapon from the passenger seat.



One report claimed that Matthew Harrity was allegedly 'stunned' when Noor opened fire on Justine Damond, so he must have known the 'loud noise' didn't come from Justine Damond.


Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 21 2018, 09:07 PM
It seems as though Matthew Harrity might still be bending the truth a bit, if he clings to his story that he was "startled by a loud noise RIGHT BEFORE Ms. Damond approached the driver's window..."
Can you believe that this cop, Noor, blasted the lady to death? The driver wasn't concerned with a lady in pyjamas or something, coming up to the police car, seeing as how she called them in the first place, but Mohamed Noor, without any by your leave, murdered the lady, who was waiting to report a possible disturbance! What an unstable person to allow into the police force AND present him with service revolver!

Posted by: Flin Mar 22 2018, 07:19 AM
Justine Damond: Police officer Mohamed Noor appears in court, granted bail
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The Minneapolis police officer charged with murdering Australian woman Justine Damond has appeared in court and been granted bail at $US400,000 ($515,000).

Mohamed Noor wore an orange shirt printed with the words Hennepin County jail when he appeared in court sitting behind a glass screen.

He acknowledged those he knew in the court and confirmed his name and birth date to the judge.

Noor's bail was on the conditions he handed in his passport, did not carry a gun and did not communicate with his ex-police partner.

The 32-year-old has been charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter over the shooting death of Ms Damond in Minneapolis last July
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-22/noor-charged-over-damond-murder-appears-in-court-granted-bail/9574798

"The eldest of 10 children of Somalian refugees in Minneapolis, "

How did he come up with that kind of bail money http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Michael.W Mar 22 2018, 07:36 AM
probably put up by his loving Mayor.

Posted by: Alicia Mar 22 2018, 09:16 AM
I think they use a bail bondsman who puts up the money at a cost to the person bailed.

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 22 2018, 10:43 AM
If they don't lock this murderer up for the term of his natural life, I'm going to be very angry!
There is no logic, concerning his killing of an innocent person! And, as was mentioned, shouldn't Matthew Harrity arrested him there and then for murder? It happened right in front of him, after all! http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Bill Mar 22 2018, 02:01 PM
QUOTE (Alicia @ Mar 22 2018, 09:16 AM)
I think they use a bail bondsman who puts up the money at a cost to the person bailed.

Got it in one Alicia. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Posted by: Bill Mar 22 2018, 02:38 PM
Permit me to add my take to the already posted 'bush lawyer' opinions so far.

A couple of things of interest.

1. Along with the Murder 3 charge, the prosecutor has added a Manslaughter 2 charge. Noor can't be found guilty of BOTH charges, which suggests to me that the prosecutor is trying to cover all the bases in case the Murder 3 is not successful. So maybe the case is not as 'open and shut' as it is being presented.

2. Noor's partner, Matthew Harrity, is both his best witness and his worst witness. The easy way out for Harrity would be to fold and say, "He murdered her" - but he's not doing that, so we must assume that he doesn't believe that.

There are a couple of things that we don't hear much of about Hatrrity. While he was the driver, he wasn't driving. The car was stopped. He heard a noise from the back of the car, and he reached for his firearm to unlock the catch securing it.........Why ?

Did he sense danger ? If he did, then Noor could have, quite reasonably, also sensed danger.

Noor's lawyer has stated that his client intends to plead 'not guilty', and would be advising him and Harrity to give evidence that both of them were in fear for their lives.

Whether a jury believes that is another matter.

This case is NOT about 'Justice For Justine'. It's about Police accountability. If Harrity had fired the fatal shot and Justine were black, we would never have heard of the case, and sadly the members of FDNC would not have cared.
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Posted by: Bear Mar 22 2018, 03:24 PM
A reasonable post up until the last paragraph...that white guilt thing again.


"This case is NOT about 'Justice For Justine'. It's about Police accountability. If Harrity had fired the fatal shot and Justine were black, we would never have heard of the case, and sadly the members of FDNC would not have cared." http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/sad.gif


You really need to take a break Bill. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/wink.gif



Posted by: Flin Mar 22 2018, 04:16 PM
"This case is NOT about 'Justice For Justine'. It's about Police accountability. If Harrity had fired the fatal shot and Justine were black, we would never have heard of the case, and sadly the members of FDNC would not have cared"

Bill , you have been a member of FDNC for many years. Who are you referring to?
I am not aware of any heartless racists on this site.

Perhaps you could be more specific .
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Posted by: scepo Mar 22 2018, 04:50 PM
I agree with your above comment Flin.

Personally I think the police in the US have got away with murdering black people, but I must add that some (probably too few) have been prosecuted for doing so. There may well be a "racist problem" within many of the US police forces. And we certainly do hear about the cases Bill.

However no matter how true that is, it does not excuse this case just because the roles are reversed. I was always taught (and still believe) that two wrongs do not make a right.

Personally Bill, I think your inbuilt progressive activist beliefs are over riding rational thought here.

I hope you realise that we (your fellow FDNC members) could choose to take offence from comments such as that. I choose not to, and so far anyway it seems no one else has chosen to take offence either.

Perhaps the increase of interest in this case, on this site, is because Justine was an Aussie. Did that thought ever cross you mind?

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 22 2018, 05:16 PM
Bill, with all due respect, you appear to be putting together your own version of this murder.
Saying " what if this...and what if that..... etc. and if the lady was black, and gunman was white.....and so on" what's happening here is that actual facts are being reversed, so that you can change the story and then say that no one would've cared! What I'm seeing here, Bill, is a new fictionalised version, so that it will fit with your opinions and theories.

Can't you just say..."Yes, I can see that Officer Noor wilfully shot and killed the lady for no reason?"

And, also, Harrity conveniently took some memory pills and suddenly remembered that he heard a noise from the back of the car AND he unlocked the safety catch? And, he obviously must've approved of Noor reaching across and instantly blasting away at the lady, just standing there! How come he just NOW thought of that?
There certainly has been enough time gone since the murder for everyone concerned to get their stories straight, because NOW people are regaining their memories. HOORAY!

There are no out and out "heartless" racists on FDNC, but there are certainly a lot of people here that see things as they truly are! And, I'll tell anyone, if I'm proved wrong (in anything) I ALWAYS acknowledge that I've made an error of judgement. I don't know everything, but I do know that Justine was brutally shot down by Officer Noor, just because she called them to report a disturbance! http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif 👎👎🤔🔫

Posted by: Michael.W Mar 22 2018, 10:04 PM
Bill,
Noor has been charged with 3rd degree murder which carries 25 years in the USA and he has also been charged with 2nd degree manslaughter which carries 15 years. By a report that I read the other day he can be found guilty in the USA of both accounts, it will depend on the judge as to which one they will be use to sentence him on if found guilty.

The report could be wrong but I do know the USA laws canbe quite different to here.

All I hope is this trigger happy piece of garbage gets his day in court and hopefully behind bars as he deserves in my view.

The US police are all to easy to shoot first asked questions later, but I have very little symphony for the USA in total, Their Guns laws are a major issue. The 2nd amendment was for the civil war so the government could arm civilian people without breaking their laws, That has now extended to people believing they have the right to bare arms.

A former US colonel I know has stated that the USA wont drop the 2nd because they can legally sell arms to other countries under those laws. The US arms sales is one of their biggest economy money making industries.

Its just a shame that innocent people like Justine become victims to gun carrying wheeling people who have very little respect for human life.

Posted by: lee Mar 23 2018, 11:24 AM
"Mr Harrity told investigators he had removed the safety on his gun before going into the alley."

"“Officer Harrity said he was startled and said ‘Oh sh** or ‘Oh Jesus.’ He said he believed his life was in danger, reached for his gun, upholstered it, and held it to his rib cage while pointing it downward. "

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-cop-charged-over-fatal-shooting-of-australian-woman-justine-damond/news-story/e91f4727f9b0906ebcc7e82bfb8591b2

Imminent threat?

Posted by: Bill Mar 23 2018, 11:53 AM
QUOTE (Flin @ Mar 22 2018, 04:16 PM)
"This case is NOT about 'Justice For Justine'. It's about Police accountability. If Harrity had fired the fatal shot and Justine were black, we would never have heard of the case, and sadly the members of FDNC would not have cared"

Bill , you have been a member of FDNC for many years. Who are you referring to?
I am not aware of any heartless racists on this site.

Perhaps you could be more specific  .
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Hi Flin
There have been about 11 other cases of Minnesota police 'murdering' unarmed civilians recently - did I miss the members concern for justice for these people, or is Justine's case 'special' ?

If so - Why ? Can you help me understand this. https://s20.postimg.org/x68t0lwf1/1120275_KASPa_Hdl.gif

Posted by: Flin Mar 23 2018, 12:00 PM

Hi Flin
There have been about 11 other cases of Minnesota police 'murdering' unarmed civilians recently - did I miss the members concern for justice for these people, or is Justine's case 'special' ?

If so - Why ? Can you help me understand this. https://s20.postimg.org/x68t0lwf1/1120275_KASPa_Hdl.gif


Easy Bill;
The story is about an unarmed Australian women who called the police getting shot by a policeman.


Posted by: Bill Mar 23 2018, 12:16 PM
Hi Phillip
Bill, with all due respect, you appear to be putting together your own version of this murder.
Saying " what if this...and what if that..... etc. and if the lady was black, and gunman was white.....and so on" what's happening here is that actual facts are being reversed, so that you can change the story and then say that no one would've cared! What I'm seeing here, Bill, is a new fictionalised version, so that it will fit with your opinions and theories.

Can't you just say..."Yes, I can see that Officer Noor wilfully shot and killed the lady for no reason?"


In an earlier post you asked me for my opinion on the legal issues surrounding this case. I'm no lawyer, obviously http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif , but that's what I attempted to do.

You don't need me to just offer support for your view, there are plenty of back slappers on here capable of doing that . That's why I chose to play 'devils advocate'.

I'll say it again - there's more than just 'Justice For Justine" at stake here, and it will take some time for it to play out in the courts and, dare I say it, on the streets of Minneapolis.

Can't you just say..."Yes, I can see that Officer Noor wilfully shot and killed the lady for no reason?"

All we can say Phillip is that Officer Noor shot and killed the lady. That much is obvious.

Whether that action was "willful" or "for no reason" will eventually be determined by the court.

Time will tell if my 'bush lawyers' summation is closer to the mark than the popular opinion by other 'bush lawyers' would suggest. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/biggrin.gif

Cheers Phillip. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Posted by: Bill Mar 23 2018, 12:37 PM
Perhaps the increase of interest in this case, on this site, is because Justine was an Aussie. Did that thought ever cross you mind?
Hi scepo

Yes, it did but right from the get go, this case was as much about Officer Noor's ethnic and religious backgrounj as anything else. Have a look back from page 1 of this topic.

I wonder whether the comments posted would have been the same if Harrity had been the shooter, or would we have been calling the incident a 'tragic loss of life' instead of 'murder.

Would we have been citing the 'presumption of innocence' if Harrity had been the shooter, or would we have been calling for the death penalty as we have in Officer Noor's case ?

Cheers scepo. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Posted by: Charles Mar 23 2018, 01:16 PM
Until now I have refrained from commenting on this story, waiting until all the details come out in a Court case.

However, there have been a number of red herrings brought up here.

Firstly, Noor's ethnicity should not be an issue, hence I can understand Bill's comments regarding other shooting incidents in Minnesota.

Secondly, I don't believe a number of FDNC members' posts can be regarded as racist. They are directing their anger towards the person responsible for the tragic death of an Australian woman. While Noor's ethnicity shouldn't be a issue, it is natural that it his background be raised. I note there is just as much anger directed towards Noor's white partner for his involvement.

Thirdly, Flin is right when pointing out that the victim, Justine, being Australian is a major factor in the interest shown by the Australian media and FDNC members. The other deaths at the hands of Minnesota police, while equally as tragic, haven't received the same media profile in Australia. If Bill wanted a discussion on this aspect he could have posted stories for discussion rather than implying the absence of FDNC comments was somehow indicative of racist attitudes. Perhaps Bill might give us some information regarding the circumstances behind his statement that, "There have been about 11 other cases of Minnesota police 'murdering' unarmed civilians recently." Without such information, how can valid comments be made?

Finally, I doubt that lawyers, be they for the defence or the prosecution, would find too many (if any) FDNC members acceptable as jury members for Noor's trial. Being Australian would have the defence lawyers baulking for a start!
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Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 23 2018, 01:28 PM
Bill, I wish that no one had shot anyone, but the simple truth is, (and why must we keep saying this!) Officer Noor, a Somali, shot and murdered Justine. If, (as you hypothetically present it) it had've been Officer Harrity, (presumably a white person) it wouldn't have changed the outrage in any way! If you think that I wouldn't care as much if it was a killing by a white guy, I'm afraid that you don't know me at all! As I've said, you can't completely change the facts, by changing from white to black, and black to white, and say....What if??? Nobody here is going to agree on this switch around on these facts! Your opinion is totally your own, and your right to say it. It just doesn't mean that they're all 'bush lawyers' because some may not fully agree with your views, especially on this subject! http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif

Posted by: Bill Mar 23 2018, 05:49 PM
Hi Charles

Thanks for your response. Mostly agree.

I think that we may have covered the 'about 11other cases' in a topic of Bears about Black Lives Martters, but I'd have to try and find it on FDNC. It's probably embedded within his perennial "Leftism is insanity" blog. Leave it with me. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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Hi Phillip

I'm not trying to change the facts mate. I'm simply trying to point out that the case may not be as open and shut as it is portrayed.

Officers Noor and Harrity have the "right to remain silent', but that's seen as something sinister. Why can't we just get on with the hanging ?

I have no doubt that we will see "Justice For Justine" at the end of all this. It just may not be the 'justice' sought by some.

At the end of the day, it will be Justine's family who will make a judgement on whether justice has been served.

Justice is not the same thing as revenge Phillip.

Cheers. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

Posted by: Michael.W Mar 23 2018, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (Bill @ Mar 23 2018, 05:49 PM)
Hi Charles

Thanks for your response. Mostly agree.

I think that we may have covered the 'about 11other cases' in a topic of Bears about Black Lives Martters, but I'd have to try and find it on FDNC. It's probably embedded within his perennial "Leftism is insanity" blog. Leave it with me.  http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif

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Hi Phillip

I'm not trying to change the facts mate. I'm simply trying to point out that the case may not be as open and shut as it is portrayed.

Officers Noor and Harrity have the "right to remain silent', but that's seen as something sinister. Why can't we just get on with the hanging ?

I have no doubt that we will see "Justice For Justine" at the end of all this. It just may not be the 'justice' sought by some.

At the end of the day, it will be Justine's family who will make a judgement on whether justice has been served.

Justice is not the same thing as revenge Phillip.

Cheers. http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/lbill.gif </span>


Hi Bill,
Noor now has the right to remain silent because he has now been charged with 2 offences and read his rights, prior to the charges he has had no right to remain silent. He exercised that right but any good investigator would shred him apart on that issue. Harrity hasn't been charged with any offence or been suspended yet so he also doesn't have the right to remain silent. He is still an officer of the law and he is required to file reports on events they have attended.

The US police are like flies, they stick together like glue & have made the investigation almost impossible to protect one of there own. However, the real guts of all of this is it a political stance hence why there Mayor sacked the chief of police. It was all in the aid to protect Noor not the victim who was killed in cold blood by a person who is now hiding behind the religion and the PC brigade go into over time. This is where it gets sticky though Harrity if he filed a report could be used against him if he becomes a witness.

Noor is getting full support from people wanting to justify having him in the police force when in reality it was simply a poor move by political people with an agenda to PC movement.

The same response is now being considered for Vic Police with the introduction of African people to be pushed into a police officers role. I have no issue with certain culture of people wanting to be police officers but they have to understand they serve the people, not the politicians agenda of PC movement, not just to be thrown in the faces of society. If this goes ahead it will be a mistake to have people in law enforcement roles that are politically position as opposed to people who wish to step up to that role of there own accord. IHMO

Posted by: Phillip J. Mar 24 2018, 06:25 AM
Michael, a good post, with points that some people just don't want to acknowledge. I wonder why?

And, Bill, regarding the line "Justice is not the same thing as revenge...." I think that it is! http://fairdinkumnewschat.b1.jcink.com/uploads/fairdinkumnewschat/smiley_don_t_know.gif
If a person kills someone, and the killer is charged and found guilty and put in jail, or executed, that would be considered payback (revenge) for committing the crime! The victim has been avenged, so justice has been served! Simple!! 👍

Posted by: Bear Mar 24 2018, 02:44 PM
"I think that we may have covered the 'about 11other cases' in a topic of Bears about Black Lives Martters, but I'd have to try and find it on FDNC. It's probably embedded within his perennial "Leftism is insanity" blog. Leave it with me."

I will wait and see where your next twist takes this thread Bill, most likely further off topic as you continue to degrade the site - you have stated several times that I add nothing worthwhile to any conversation here, accompanied by your usual accusations, yet offer nothing more than nonsense.

Lately your posts have shown signs of white guilt, and you seem to expect others here to do the same, I feel sorry for you.




Posted by: Flin Mar 24 2018, 06:14 PM
"White Guilt" ; Good one Mr. Bear. http://fairdinkumnewschat.com/rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Bear Mar 24 2018, 08:30 PM
Yet another sign of the times Mr. Flin.

Some inherit it, some just grow it, in the end, those who have it gain no more than contributing to the demise of their own culture.





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